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Here's a typical e-mail I've received:
"I am a Giants fan, please tell me that Eli will be alright! Do you think that Coughlin even knew who was coming on the schedule when he decided to play Manning?"

Saturday's game probably quieted talk about Eli Manning as a bust for the time being, but there's no doubt his rookie year hasn't been what Giants fans were expecting. Even after a good game, his numbers look nothing like his brother's rookie year, or what people expect from the No. 1 overall pick. Here are Eli's stats, prorated to include two more starts:
81 for 186 (43.6 percent completion rate), 977 yards, 4 TD, 10 INT
Yep, that's bad. How bad? Eight quarterbacks since 1978 have had a completion rate below 50 percent and at least twice as many interceptions in the first season of their careers with at least 125 pass attempts. It isn't exactly the roll call of victory: Steve DeBerg (1978 49ers), Jeff Komlo (1979 Lions), Art Schlichter (1984 Colts), Bruce Mathison (1985 Bills), Mike Tomczak (1986 Bears), Jack Trudeau (1986 Colts), Browning Nagle (1992 Jets), and -- oh, no -- Ryan Leaf (1998 Chargers).
Those quarterbacks, however, don't necessarily make the best comparison for Manning because they put up terrible numbers in more games. Saturday's game is reason to believe Manning will improve with more playing time, and that his completion rate and touchdown-to-interception ratio would be better if he had played from Week 1.
A good way to compare Manning to other rookies who played only part of the year is with similarity scores. Similarity scores are a Bill James invention familiar to baseball fans, but I have a similar formula that I use to compare football seasons. (A couple of other football writers use variations on the idea as well. You can read more about the specifics in this article about Drew Brees. I took the prorated Manning numbers above and compared them to every quarterback since 1978, the year the modern passing rules went into effect and the season expanded to 16 games.
The new list of similar QBs looks a little better than the list above, but it isn't tremendously better. It is hard to find quarterbacks who had a completion rate as bad as Manning's and threw for as few yards per attempt (and only played a few games). Instead you get guys who were somewhat close in each area. The most similar quarterback is actually another No. 1 overall pick who has had a very long career -- but not kind of career that Giants fans are hoping to see out of Manning. The rest of the top 10 are a mix of guys who had reasonable but unspectacular careers, guys who really went nowhere, and guys who are famous for attacking Jim Rome. Here is the top 10, along with two players who would be in the top 10 except that the formula also includes rushing yardage:
| Rookie QBs Most Similar to Eli Manning | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Player | Year | Team | G | Comp | Att | Yards | TD | INT | Pct | Yd/Att |
| Manning proj. | 2004 | NYG | 8 | 81 | 186 | 977 | 4 | 10 | 43.6 | 5.25 |
| Vinny Testaverde | 1987 | TB | 6 | 71 | 165 | 1085 | 5 | 6 | 43.0 | 6.55 |
| Don Majkowski | 1987 | GB | 7 | 55 | 127 | 875 | 5 | 3 | 43.3 | 6.89 |
| Eric Zeier | 1995 | CLE | 7 | 82 | 161 | 864 | 4 | 9 | 50.9 | 5.37 |
| Billy Joe Tolliver | 1989 | SD | 5 | 89 | 185 | 1097 | 5 | 8 | 48.1 | 5.93 |
| Steve Walsh | 19898 | DAL | 8 | 110 | 219 | 1371 | 5 | 9 | 50.2 | 6.26 |
| Koy Detmer | 1998 | PHI | 8 | 97 | 181 | 1011 | 5 | 5 | 53.6 | 5.59 |
| Tim Hasselbeck | 2003 | WAS | 7 | 95 | 177 | 1012 | 5 | 7 | 53.7 | 5.72 |
| Cody Carlson | 1988 | HOU | 6 | 52 | 112 | 775 | 4 | 6 | 46.4 | 6.92 |
| Danny Wuerffel | 1997 | NO | 7 | 42 | 91 | 518 | 4 | 8 | 46.2 | 5.69 |
| Jim Everett | 1986 | Rams | 6 | 73 | 147 | 1018 | 8 | 8 | 49.7 | 6.93 |
| Michael Vick | 2001 | ATL | 8 | 50 | 113 | 785 | 2 | 3 | 44.2 | 6.95 |
| Quincy Carter | 2001 | DAL | 9 | 90 | 176 | 1072 | 5 | 7 | 51.1 | 6.09 |
Putting Michael Vick aside for the moment, this is not an encouraging list for Giants fans. The two first-round picks, Testaverde and Everett, had long and successful careers, but only three combined Pro Bowl appearances. The other guys never really put it together, except for Don Majkowski for a couple years, and a number of them did have high expectations. Remember that Steve Walsh was a supplemental draftee who cost Dallas a first-rounder, Billy Joe Tolliver and Quincy Carter were second-rounders, and a couple more of these guys were third-rounders.
Obviously, a look at similar rookies doesn't mean Vinny Testaverde represents Manning's limit at this point. All this struggle could be the fault of the offensive line, or the receivers, instead of Manning. This method doesn't include any adjustment for strength of schedule, and Manning has faced a gauntlet of this year's top pass defenses. And he's probably going to get better over his last two games. But even when I looked at similar rookies assuming that Manning's final two games would be like his game against Pittsburgh instead of the ones that came before it, the list of similar quarterbacks is pretty much the same, with a couple of unexciting additions like Craig Whelihan and Chad Hutchinson.
Actually, Manning's good game on Saturday got rid of the most successful of the players with similar rookie seasons. When I did this based on Manning's first five games instead of six, the most similar rookie was eventual Super Bowl MVP Doug Williams, who had a horrific 37.6 percent completion percentage his first season. After a few years in Tampa, Williams had to switch leagues and then switch to a new NFL team before he won a Super Bowl.
What about Eli's big brother? In Peyton's rookie year he threw more interceptions than touchdowns and completed only 56.7 percent of his passes for 6.5 yards per attempt, both numbers far lower than any of his other seasons. But Peyton's rookie season was so unique that there is only one similar rookie since 1978 (Jim Kelly).
This week's rankings:
| SNAP JUDGMENT'S QB RANKINGS FOR WEEK 15 | ||
| Quarterback | Skinny | DPAR |
| 1. Chad Pennington 18/24, 253 yards 3 TDs, 0 INTd |
Since it began the season in spectacular fashion, quickly collapsed, and has now redefined pathetic, I hereby nickname Seattle's D the "XFL defense." | 17.0 |
| 2. Kerry Collins 21/37, 371 yards 5 TDs, 1 INT |
Despite injuries and free-agent defections, Tennessee's D was playing reasonably well against the pass until it imploded three weeks ago. | 14.1 |
| 3. Daunte Culpepper 25/35, 404 yards 3 TDs, 1 INT |
I think Randy's hammy feels better now. 8-for-10 on third down with 234 yards and 3 TDs. | 12.5 |
| 4. Peyton Manning 20/33, 249 yards 1 TD, 0 INTs |
Second straight week where lack of TD passes does not indicate poor play. | 12.0 |
| 5. Eli Manning 16/23, 182 yards 2 TDs, 1 INT |
Flailed his arms around before the snap, changing plays and motioning guys over to pick up blitzers. Yep, he's a Manning. | 11.1 |
| 6. Josh McCown 22/34, 287 yards 2 TDs, 0 INTs |
At this point, is anyone not rooting for Arizona to win NFC West at 7-9? | 10.5 |
| 7. Trent Green 16/19, 224 yards 3 TDs, 0 INTs |
Rookie Sammie Parker, who had never caught an NFL pass, caught three for 84 yards and a TD. | 9.3 |
| 8. Billy Volek 40/60, 492 yards 4 TDs, 1 INT |
This game counts for 17.5 PAR, the highest of the week, but Oakland's secondary has been so bad that adjusting for opponent cuts the value by more than half. | 8.1 |
| 9. Ben Roethlisberger 18/28, 316 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
Very good game despite the INTs. Am I the only one who thinks the first one was partially Lee Mays' fault for being too passive? | 7.8 |
| 10. Patrick Ramsey 18/27, 214 yards 1 TD, 0 INTs |
If a quarterback has a good game on a Saturday, and nobody watches because both teams are terrible, does it make a sound? | 6.5 |
| 11. Matt Hasselbeck 22/30, 201 yards 2 TDs, 1 INT |
Don't blame him for terrible defense or Alexander fumble. Best field position to start drive was own 31-yard line. | 6.0 |
| 12. Aaron Brooks 14/21, 169 yards 2 TDs, 0 INTs |
Did absolutely nothing for much of the game while getting battered by the TB pass rush, then found a way to throw two perfect TD passes to win the game in the final minutes. | 5.9 |
| 13. David Carr 13/28, 220 yards 1 TD, 0 INTs |
Anyone else out there see name "J.Gaffney" in box score and think of jerk captain from "Homicide: Life on the Street"? | 5.6 |
| 14. Jake Delhomme 24/35, 340 yards 2 TDs, 1 INT |
A hot quarterback, 1:30 on the clock with a timeout, and only 40 yards needed for FG position. How did Carolina screw this up? Oh, right, a backwards toss play and a false start. Can't blame Jake for that. | 5.3 |
| 15. Jamie Martin 16/31, 188 yards 0 TDs, 0 INTs |
People criticized me for having Marc Bulger as a top 10 quarterback this year, but who doubts it now? | 5.2 |
| 16. Drew Bledsoe 15/30, 183 yards 1 TD, 0 INTs |
Buffalo defense also shoveled his walkway, cooked him dinner, and babysat his kids. | 3.3 |
| 17. Drew Brees 4/6, 85 yards 1 TD, 0 INTs |
Missed this game with flu, replaced with lifelike robot, the Acme Handoff-o-matic 3000. | 1.6 |
| 18. Michael Vick 11/28, 154 yards 1 TDs, 2 INTs |
4.2 DPAR rushing, -3.5 DPAR passing. So much for "Vick passes better when he runs well." I know we've been blaming the offensive coordinator but Vick himself has turned into Nuke LaLoosh. The WCO doesn't make him overthrow his receivers by five yards, and it doesn't make him throw a ball that bounces 10 yards in front of Peerless Price. Try breathing through your eyelids, Mike. | 0.7 |
| 19. Byron Leftwich 9/20, 121 yards 2 TDs, 0 INTs |
Gets up from more hits than Monty Python's Black Knight. | 0.4 |
| 20. Vinny Testaverde 16/28, 176 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
At least can take solace in fact that today I compared him to member of Manning family. | -0.6 |
| 21. Donovan McNabb 20/35, 223 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
Is this what the season would have been like without T.O.? Pitiful 2-for-8 on third downs with two sacks and two interceptions. | -1.5 |
| 22. Joey Harrington 25/44, 361 yards 2 TDs, 2 INTs |
Value significantly higher before adjusting for Vikings defense. Not his fault Lions can't snap the ball. | -1.7 |
| 23. Brett Favre 30/44, 367 yards 2 TDs, 3 INTs |
As a reader pointed out this weekend, complaints about annoying non-stop Favre worship by the announcers are themselves now becoming annoying and non-stop. | -2.0 |
| 24. Kyle Boller 19/40, 210 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
While Manning got the press, real battle of this game was to see who was for real, Indy defense or Boller. Boller did not win this competition. | -4.1 |
| 25. Brian Griese 13/22, 118 yards 1 TD, 1 INT |
A week after setting season low for passing yards allowed, Saints defense sets season low again. | -4.2 |
| 26. Jon Kitna 16/32, 151 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
Free Jon Kitna! Oh, whoops ... | -5.1 |
| 27. Jake Plummer 23/41, 292 yards 1 TD, 2 INTs |
Leads league in passes listed with no intended receiver (14). Explains a lot, doesn't it? | -5.2 |
| 28. Ken Dorsey 20/38, 206 yards 2 TDs, 4 INTs |
Come on, 49ers. Play Cody Pickett next week. What do you have to lose? | -7.0 |
| 29. Chris Chandler 1/6, 1 yard 0 TDs, 1 INT |
Mike Martz pinned the blame for Sunday's loss on Chandler, continuing his disturbing habit of taking absolutely no responsibility for anything that goes wrong with the Rams. "It's tragic for this football team, for that position to hold this whole football team hostage," said Martz. Gee, Mike, who makes roster decisions like naming a backup quarterback? | -7.0 |
| 30. Luke McCown 11/27, 108 yards 0 TDs, 1 INT |
The Browns could have played 40 quarters on Sunday and he was never going to get them into the end zone. | -7.6 |
| 31. Chad Hutchinson 17/34, 168 yards 0 TDs, 1 INT |
Followed up promising first appearance with total loss of accuracy -- just like his St. Louis minor-league days. | -10.8 |
How DPAR (Defense-adjusted Points Above Replacement) works
The success of each play is judged based on yardage gained towards both a touchdown and a first down. Then each play gets compared to the NFL average on similar plays, based on down, distance, and other variables. Quarterbacks are judged not based on how many yards they get, but on how important those yards are in the context of the game.
Ratings are also adjusted for the quality of the opposing defense. The quarterback's performance is then translated into an approximate number of actual points that such success (or failure) is worth when compared to a "replacement level" quarterback (defined as any quarterback named "Billy Joe").
When all offensive, defensive, and special teams plays are added together for one team, the result comes very close to the actual difference between points scored and allowed.
Among the advantages of this system:
1. Gives value for first downs, which are not really included in any other QB rating system but are hugely important.
2. Does not punish quarterbacks who are always in bad field position because of a poor defense, nor does it punish quarterbacks who are always stuck in third-and-long because of a poor running game.
3. With enough data to begin including defensive adjustment, quarterbacks receive bonuses when they play well against good defenses, and they don't get rated as world-beaters when they shred the 49ers
4. Includes both passing and rushing plays, which obviously helps a QB like Michael Vick.
5. DPAR punishes quarterbacks for turnovers but also for fumbles that his own team recovers. Different kind of fumbles have different penalties depending on how often defense recovers for a turnover. Sacks are punished as well.
6. 5-yard scramble on 3rd-and-10? Worthless!
7. Actual points! Easy to understand!
An even longer explanation of these numbers can be found here.
Aaron Schatz is editor-in-chief of FootballOutsiders.com.
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