Roger Goodell: No CBA deadline for NFL
FORT WORTH, Texas -- NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday a new labor agreement could be in place by the Super Bowl "if we all commit to it and work hard at it."
Goodell made it clear that NFL negotiators are willing to do so.
Every week and every year we hear that the ratings are up, more tickets are sold this year than ever before, more advertising is being sold now than ever before, all that does is generate revenue and we have to listen to the owners tell us that we're not making money. That's a hard thing to understand when you won't show us where you're losing money because you're afraid to show us your books.” -- NFLPA president Kevin Mawae on owners' financial claims
"There's no higher priority than getting a collective bargaining agreement," he said following a day of meetings with NFL team owners. "So we will work night and day to get that done."
Asked whether he expects the same from the NFL Players' Association, Goodell said, "I hope so."
NFLPA spokesman Carl Francis had no comment on Goodell's optimism, but union president Kevin Mawae addressed the negotiations during an appearance on The Herd with Colin Cowherd on ESPN Radio on Wednesday.
"We wanted to get a deal done before the holidays. It's not going to happen," Mawae said. "We're going to work diligently to try to get a deal done before March 4, which is the beginning of the new league year. But at the same time, as the president of the PA, we have to prepare our players for the worst-case scenario, there being no football. At no time will we ever not go to the table and try to negotiate a deal to get a deal done."
The major sticking point is the owners demanding to restructure the players' share of designated revenues.
Mawae called the NFL "a $9 billion business" and told Cowherd it's difficult for the players to understand the owners' financial claims, citing rising team values and the owners' reluctance to reveal the teams' financial records.
"No team is losing money," Mawae said. "Every week and every year we hear that the ratings are up, more tickets are sold this year than ever before, more advertising is being sold now than ever before, all that does is generate revenue and we have to listen to the owners tell us that we're not making money. That's a hard thing to understand when you won't show us where you're losing money because you're afraid to show us your books. ... Until we have full financials, it's kind of hard to do a deal based on financials."
Another point of contention is the owners wanting to turn two preseason games into regular-season games; the union fears more injuries and has countered with a request for additional roster spots and cutting offseason workouts by about one-third from the current 14 weeks.
Mawae, an eight-time Pro Bowler and three-time All Pro over 16 NFL seasons, said the players are wary of the 18-game schedule.
The Herd with Colin Cowherd
NFLPA President Kevin Mawae agrees an 18-game season is the main point of contention to getting a deal done with the owners. Mawae also talks about if he has been blacklisted by the NFL.
"It's nearly an impossible sell for the players," Mawae said on The Herd. "It's not about the finances, it's not about the payment. It's about the body and the wear and tear a player takes. ... There would have to be a lot of give from the management and the NFL side to get the 18 games."
Goodell said the league has no deadline for a deal, but noted that the collective bargaining agreement expires March 4.
"This becomes harder after the labor agreement expires," he said. "We want to get this done as soon as possible."
At the league's fall meetings in October, Patriots owner Robert Kraft said he considered it realistic to have a new CBA by the end of the regular season, which is Jan. 2.
Goodell said he doesn't think it is practical to expect negotiations to get serious enough fast enough for that to happen. However, he said, "I think the end of the postseason is realistic."
Kraft left the meetings saying he didn't want to discuss the negotiations.
"Just a lot of discussion. Nothing's changed. We're still hopeful of getting an agreement at some point, but I don't have any substantive comment about where we are," New York Giants co-owner John Mara said. "I'm always optimistic until proven otherwise."
Colts owner Jim Irsay said these negotiations felt like all the others he's been involved with over the last few decades.
"There's nothing that's unusual or anything earth-shattering right now," he said. "The process continues is the best way to put it."
Last week, the league agreed to give the union more time to file a collusion claim against the NFL. It was announced in a joint statement.
"I have said this repeatedly: I believe this will be resolved at the collective bargaining table," Goodell said. "Obviously we're seeing a lot of rhetoric and different tactics, including litigation strategies that I think are all distractions and attempts to get leverage. I understand that. But at the end of the day, this will get solved at the negotiating table. That's where we should be."
Goodell said it's a good sign that the league and the NFLPA are talking, but he called that only a start.
There's no higher priority than getting a collective bargaining agreement. So we will work night and day to get that done.” -- NFL commissioner Roger Goodell
"It takes productive dialogue, which means we've got to get to that place where we're making significant progress in getting an agreement," he said. "It's not just about meetings and dialogues. It's about getting real, significant progress on the key issues."
The owners also watched a video on helmet hits and discussed reseeding for the playoffs.
Owners have discussed before whether to change the current system of rewarding division winners with a home playoff game, or if playoff seeds should be based strictly on record. It's an issue again because the winner of the NFC West could be 8-8 or 7-9, while a team with 10 or 11 wins could have to go on the road.
"I see the merits of what they're talking about," Goodell said. "But I also believe that our playoff system has worked quite well. ... We were focused a lot on [whether] the priority should be win your division, get a home game. That's what clubs really felt should be the priority."
The two clubs most likely hurt by the existing rules are the Giants and Eagles. They are tied for the NFC East lead at 9-4.
Mara said he understand the logic behind the way things are done, "though I don't necessarily agree with it."
"For me, a team that wins their division with a .500 record or worse shouldn't necessarily get a home game over a team that wins 10 or 11 games," Mara said. "I can't tell you I have a lot of hope about that passing. It's been discussed in the past and never gone anywhere."
Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said he didn't have a stance.
"It's a tough question," he said. "You keep having to go back and forth with that every year."
The commissioner said a decision could be coming soon on the investigation in Brett Favre's possible improper conduct, and that another investigation is ongoing regarding a tampering charge between the Chiefs and Lions. Asked about a team moving to Los Angeles, Goodell said the CBA has to be resolved first.
Information from The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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