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Tim Lincecum no-hits Padres again

For the second time in 12 months, Tim Lincecum has no-hit the San Diego Padres. The San Francisco Giants hurler also becomes the third National League West pitcher to allow zero hits in a game this season, after Los Angeles Dodgers teammates Josh Beckett and Clayton Kershaw did earlier this year. How many more will we see? Are they losing their glamour?

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For a few years, Tim Lincecum was one of the most exciting players in baseball, a fireballing ace with long hair and an odd delivery. His fastball has petered out, however, and his struggles the past few seasons have made him something of a liability to the Giants. They're apparently counting on him turning it around, however, as the team signed him to a two-year, $35 million contract on Tuesday. The Giants listed re-signing Lincecum as one of their top priorities, but do they know something we don't?

Here's a sampling of what readers had to say in our Facebook conversation on the story:

What do you think? Leave your comments below.


Worth it?

Lincecum's fastball rarely cracks 90 miles an hour these days, which limits his options and, consequently, his effectiveness.

SportsNation

What do you make of the Giants signing Tim Lincecum to a reported two-year, $35 million deal?

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Now that we have a few days to catch our breath before the start of baseball's postseason (and thanks to the Padres for that), what are we to make of the teams still worrying about pitching rotations? Well, for the most part, SportsNation isn't exactly shocked by the playoff field.

Five of the eight active teams were ranked in SportsNation's top 10 on Opening Day, and the Giants were knocking on the door at No. 11. Only the Rangers (No. 16) and Reds (No. 23) really came out of nowhere.

But if either the Rangers or Reds are going to keep surprising, Cliff Lee and Edinson Volquez will likely need to break out their best Don Larsen impersonation. Lee rebounded from a weak August to dominate three of his final four starts, while Volquez missed the first half of the season but gets the first postseason start for the Reds after posting a 1.95 ERA in September. It's the time of year for aces to shine, but which teams have the best arms?

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It took a guy flirting with a perfect game, Toronto's Brett Cecil, to prevent Ubaldo Jimenez from laying undisputed claim to Monday's best pitching line -- and Jimenez's ERA still went up after he allowed one earned run in seven innings against the Padres. After six starts, Jimenez isn't just sharing the stage with two-time defending Cy Young champ Tim Lincecum and high-profile import Roy Halladay -- he's upstaging them.

We've come a long way from the days of David Nied and Marvin Freeman.

On the flip side, Monday's game marked the third time in four games that Jimenez has thrown at least 120 pitches, and the fourth time in five games he reached at least 115. So putting aside Tim Tebow, is Jimenez's arm the one Denver fans should worry about? Vote!

Coug (SS Universe)

Lincecum or Wainwright?

Jerry Crasnick
Jerry Crasnick

Coug, For what it's worth, I picked Adam Wainwright as my NL Cy Young this year (over Roy Halladay, believe it or not). The guy is a horse. Full transcript

Rodney (Philadelphia)

Hamels seem to be struggling alot early on in the season. He's making the same mistakes he was last year and he's getting hit just like he was last year. Is it his head or did the 2008 season blow his arm out?

Jayson Stark
Jayson Stark

Blow his arm out? There are only a handful of pitchers in the whole sport who have gotten a higher percentage of swings and misses than he has this year. He's gotten more than Ubaldo Jimenez, more than Felix Hernandez. So his stuff is still great. It's how he's used it that's been the problem. He's still fiddling with how to incorporate the cutter and curve ball. So get back to me in two months on this. Full transcript

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Tim Lincecum won the National League Cy Young for the second consecutive season, just as SportsNation voters suggested he should at the All-Star break and after the season.

So why are Chris Carpenter and Javier Vazquez at the center of a Cy Young controversy?

Lincecum won a close vote, edging the Cardinals duo of Carpenter and Adam Wainwright. That's noteworthy because two voters, including ESPN.com's Keith Law, didn't include Carpenter on their three-person ballots. Instead, Law put Vazquez second. Never one to bow to conventional wisdom or duck a question, Law explained on "AllNight" on ESPN Radio. But for SportsNation chatters, the news was hardly a surprise.

Jeremy (California)

I know you're not going to reveal your Cy Young ballot before the results are announced, but will you reveal it after the fact? I'm really curious. I know how I'd vote, but honestly I would be neither surprised nor angry at any three of Lincecum, Vazquez, Haren, Jimenez, Wainwright, and Carpenter, in any order.

Keith Law
Keith Law

That's pretty much my view. It's not a 3-man race; it's at least a 4-man race (Vazquez) and you could make a serious case for Haren. Full Oct. 1 transcript

John (AZ)

When you are voting for the Cy Young what is one stat that you highly value?

Keith Law
Keith Law

I'm looking at a mix -- VORP, FIP, xFIP, etc. At the end of the day, I'm not comfortable rewarding a pitcher for playing in front of a great defense, which ERA and even VORP do to some degree. Full Oct. 1 transcript

bigbluepete

A starting pitchers job is to win games. That's it. Great pitchers win alot of games because they are great. I'm still shocked ANYONE would ever say wins aren't important. Look, Greinke and Lincecum are really good young pitchers. If they were on teams that could hit and score runs, they both would've probably won 20 games anyway. But I still believe if one of the contenders won 21,22 games this year, they would've won the CY in either league.

-- bigbluepete

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